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WTF PEOPLE.
That is NOT why I wrote it!
I swear every other review says some variation of this, and it's making me want to take the story down. Or leave a rant at the end of it (that would end up being longer than the story itself, so nix that idea).
I'm just tired of the unwarranted Sora hate. I can see WHY they might hate Sora for what he did to the Organization, but that's completely biased and one-sided thinking. Sora wasn't their real enemy, he was just the tool. Yen Sid and Diz (and maybe even Mickey, to a degree) are the ones to blame if you really want to get down to the root of Sora's (AND Riku's) eradication of the Nobodies.
Neither of the boys knew what they were getting into in the beginning (CoM) or even what the Nobodies were, and of course when Sora's asleep for a year, Riku is going to figure a lot of shit out that Sora wouldn't know, but he still comes to the same conclusion (hence his "You mess up our worlds" reply to Xemnas): the Nobodies can't exist because they're not supposed to.
Sora only comes to that conclusion because Yen Sid tells him they're not supposed to exist and tells him that they don't have hearts. Sora doesn't have a clue that they can have some semblance of feelings, so he just fights them without worry, just like he did with the heartless. Riku, after dealing with Roxas and Namine, knows very well that they can have feelings, which is why he goes out of his way to protect those two in the beginning of KH2.
Sora? No one really tried to make him understand. Demyx makes a few comments, sure, but Sora's stubborn. He needs more than just a flippant "Sure we have hearts!" from a Nobody to believe it. I do think that Sora, near the end after Axel fights beside him, starts realizing that Nobodies aren't unfeeling entities--but it takes a Nobody that's on his side to make him realize it. And of course he's going to go ahead and off the rest of the Organization anyway--they're messing up the worlds and were USING Sora to gather hearts for them! Of course Sora's going to keep holding a grudge!
When I wrote this Demyx oneshot, it was to highlight how tragic his death was, yes, and how overlooked it was in the game, but I also wrote the oneshot to highlight how dangerous Sora could be. Not to reflect him as some heartless killer or whatever! Not even Demyx hated Sora!
Obviously I failed at conveying my original intentions, but stop with the Sora hate already!
Arrgghhh.
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I liked Sora in KHI, I really did. I did not play KH CoM (well I tried once, but the fighting system just wasn't my thing). I started playing KH II (but I so failed at beating Demyx xD), but I can say that not only due to the commercialism of this game, but due to... whatever I don't really am able to name it, but something was odd about this game... but I started to not like Sora anymore as I did in the beginning. I do not hate him, gosh no. But maybe it took three games for me to realize how naive and simple he is.
But to hate him because he defeated/killed the members of the Organization? as you already said, the reader/player should go more into detail and rather 'hate' the ones who are responsible for this. Bla... I'm sorry I simply cannot really write down my thoughts in proper english. It's late here as well.
Don't blame yourself, you did good.
Blame Square Enix for making all of Orgy13 gay for each other to make a buck off the fangirls who are hot for vapid bishies.
And thanks. You're right! I'm not going to blame myself anymore.
^ OMG THIS. Org members were just speedbumps to me. Srsly. Nomura had it all setup for KH2 to be an epic and he sold out to the friggin' fangirls. What a joke.
To me, it was just an interesting perspective on that battle, and a reminder of how impressionable someone as young as Sora can be. People always play to the cute, becoming side of Sora's naivety, but this showed that his trust can be a dangerous thing, too.
I suppose those comments are just what you get for writing something that goes beyond KH. I mean, the story is totally reflective of our own society and its wars, and the military mind and government propaganda, and that's way more complicated than fanfiction usually is. Not that I'm criticizing you for attempting something with a message - I personally love that; it's what real writing should do. I'm just saying that I don't think you failed at conveying your intentions; they just weren't conveyed in a venue where you can really expect them to be properly appreciated. :(
And your comment made me feel a hundred times better, thanks. :D You're right, I can't expect half my readers to read that in depth into things, not in this fandom. I learned that lesson with my longer stories, but I forget that it's even easier to overlook depth in short pieces like this, too.
You know, this is actually a lot like Fullmetal Alchemist now that I think about it...
Except switch the Nobodies with Humunculi. They were supposed to be "non-feeling", only dolls, and a mere figment of who was supposed to be recreated. Annnnd they were "supposed" to want to dominate the world, rule, etc. when all Lust wanted was to become human again.
Ed and Al would be like Sora and Riku... And the people pulling their strings were Izumi (for forbidding human transmutation in the beginning but being a hypocrite), Mustang, the Fuhrer, Dante, Scar aannnd pretty much everyone else.
Ed never did his own research, just went with what everyone said because it fit what the humunculi were doing. :/
Sad....
How can someone hate Sora? He's the main character of the freakin' game!
It's so sad that such a complex and beautiful game like KH being interpreted so shallowly by people who supposed to realise things behind things and why--the reason people act like they were, and... all. It's just sad.
I'm glad I'm not the only one confused and offput by Yen Sid's high-handedness. His role always confused me, especially how he just vanishes after introducing the nobodies (and how after Roxas, what he says is so clearly wrong...)
That kind of is his role. Yen Sid is a bastard and has been since his creation.
He's egotistical and cruel, making his scenes in Kingdom Hearts II very in character, but also very deceiving to both the audience and Sora with what information he gives. He's so sure in himself that you automatically believe what he says.
Sadly, they could have gone a different route and used another magic user (of which there is no shortage in Disney) to convey the information and you'd be left questioning it, as well as being more open to the themes of the movie.
-Saitaina
But seriously. They need to take their hate and the rest of their stupid bullcrap and get the hell off the internet, because people like that are just reducing our collective IQ and making us angry. :O
Every being of nothingness (which is a bit of an oxymoron when you think about it) he came into contact with, he stubbornly (or obliviously) ignored their "bouts" of emotion. Again, he's a teenage boy. Boys are naturally stubborn and a little thick headed to seeing the truth.
I'm actually just glad that he FINALLY saw the light, even if it was at the cost of pretty much all of the organization. But what's life without a little sacrifices?
I read it, it was wonderfully written. I can see why the reviews would upset you.
I give you kudos for writing on such deep subjects.
I must admit, though, I hate Sora myself, but not because "omg he killed mah bishie nuuuuu." No, I like to think I'm not that shallow. I actually hate him because he IS a tool. He never once questioned if he was doing the right thing, or if the people feeding him information were doing for the right reasons or if they even had all the information themselves. He never tried to seek the information himself and form his own conclusions independent of everyone else, just continued on his merry path doing what people told him to do. Now, I can understand that he's a kid and has no idea what's really going on, so all he CAN do is what the adults tell him. But that doesn't mean he's incapable of finding out for himself.
He either refused to or just plain couldn't see the other side of the issue; admittedly, perhaps if he had stopped to consider it he might have been unable to act. I can understand that; sometimes being able to see both sides of an issue paralyzes you and prevents any sort of action one way or the other. But it just seems like he didn't, and that sort of thing vexes me. I've hated him since the first game, and for the same reasons, even if I might not have been able to articulate them then. (Although, KH1!Ansem and the Heartless are a lot easier to dislike than Organization XIII; his motives WERE pretty simple, and not much of his character beyond "LOOK AT ME I'M BAD MOTHERFUCKERS" was ever shown. I think he got gypped as a villain.)
Organization XIII were the bad guys! Seriously the demographics for the kingdom hearts series is probably for like ten year olds (Even though it says all ages you can probably see from some of the elements that it was not meant to be for adults or whatever). In the minds of the little kids who were probably supposed to be the target audience, the Organization were doing bad things and needed to be stopped. The whole intro at the beginning about the nobodies not having hearts was not only a reason so Sora could fight the nobodies, but also so the people playing the game wouldn't feel bad.
In my viewpoint, the organization was ruining the lives of many people and destroying the worlds. So what if they were doing it for their hearts, are thirteen hearts really worth the thousands it takes to build kingdom hearts? (and trust me if you check jiminy's diary you will see the heartless count in the thousands)
Don't blame yourself, or the fanfiction. Instead blame the fangirls who have decided to take a children's videogame way out of proportion. I don't believe that KH was meant to have too much of a complex plot (and after playing Tales of the Abyss I have realized how much of a simple plot the game actually has) and that over-analizing the game is just going to ruin it.
Truthfully, I'm just playing the game because I like bashing the heartless. Beating up organization xiii a couple of times is admittingly fun as well (but don't tell the fangirls that).